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  To beard or not to beard...

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  2. beliefs

  ...that is the question our circuit overseer asked the elders.

  to elaborate, the agenda for the co meeting with the elders had an item about the "beard paragraph" (sept watchtower p21 para 17) which i assumed would be an instruction to not use any with beards on the platform.

  instead he genuinely wanted to know if we would recommend a brother if he had a beard but everything else was ok. he kept pressing until he got 100% saying yes - a beard isn't a problem.

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  My husband and I are curious what area of our country (USA) or the world are you?
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  What if all JWs had put off having children?

  by keyser soze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could the religion have survived?.

  i know it was never forbidden, but i remember growing up, how we were encouraged to put it off until the new system, and instead focus on a career in the full time service.. can you imagine if every young jw had chosen to follow that counsel?

  it's difficult to imagine the religion being sustainable without the next generation of born-ins..

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  Also thank you for the quotes blondie... My mother in law actually told me that the society- she still calls it that...never said that we shouldn't have kids... Now I have some proof to show her because I did not feel like searching for the proof I knew was there...
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  What if all JWs had put off having children?

  by keyser soze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could the religion have survived?.

  i know it was never forbidden, but i remember growing up, how we were encouraged to put it off until the new system, and instead focus on a career in the full time service.. can you imagine if every young jw had chosen to follow that counsel?

  it's difficult to imagine the religion being sustainable without the next generation of born-ins..

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  Yes, my husband and I were also one of those couples that stupidly listened to the advise not to have kids...10 years into being married I noticed all the planned children other couples in our circuit were having and it really confused me...now that we are awake I feel we are too old and confused as to what the hell we would even teach these kids that we are just content to live our lives happy and free of the cult...😔
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  Huge story unfolding at Warwick

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

  well this is huge on so many levels.

  one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

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  My question is: did they disclose to the volunteers working there about this risk to their health? Anyone on this board know that answer?
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  Update: Got my Judicial Committee cancelled

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  original thread here.

  update: so, after the meeting i had with elders a few weeks ago as outlined in my original thread, they met as a body and once again called to tell me that after considering my case they still thought a judicial committee should be held against me and asked to be there "thursday at 7:30".

  all of this, i remind you, because of posting coc on facebook.

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  I'm surprised they didn't ask for your flock book back...
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  When you were fully in, did you believe that you would not die?

  by TTWSYF in

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  2. beliefs

  i know that it must seem silly to ask, but my brother and his family think that the big a will arrive before they die.

  i tried to explain to my brother that everyone else who has ever lived in the past has died and only jesus has [physically] rose from the dead.. it is amazing that anyone could buy that line.

  what crazy cult culture that could make people believe such nonsense?!.

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  This is an excellent topic... I was a born in and totally believed I would not die. One of my first doubts was why would I be priveledged to live forever just because I was born in...which led to the doubt that God would destroy non Jws...didn't seem like perfect justice to me... I agree with you dunedain it is really hard to swallow the society induced prohibition on having children and realizing that was a fatal mistake too late...problem for me now in my 40s is it too late? and I'm so screwed up about what I really believe- what would I teach a child- If I have no clue?? Children of the world are taught from a young age to accept death as a natural part of life...children raised in this cult as it was well said already are taught that it is a lack of faith... I really needed to hear that tonight because it makes me realize how very screwed up this cult is...thank you everyone for all your comments...I wish I could properly introduce myself and tell my story but I am not ready to be d-fed due to all our family in... 😔
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  Why Do People Become Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  besides being raised in the religion , why do people become jws?

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  My parents converted in their 20's back in late 70's. They had been raised Catholic and the "truth" had the ring of truth and bible understanding they were craving. They were hippies and had this idealistic view of the future that the paradise hope fed for them then. The problem is that the religion they joined then is NOT the religion that it is now...
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  60th Anniversary today - I was baptized 9-01-56

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  60th anniversary – i was baptized 9-1-56 .

  my parents weren’t witnesses at the time, but my witness uncle studied with my brother and i. i think the only reason my parents let him was because my brother was having mental issues and were hoping it would help him.

  my father surprised me a few years later, started studying and was baptized in 1961, later appointed an elder.

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  Thank you for your post. I felt the same way about leaving, if not now when? I thought for sure I would miss it. But I don't, I feel a calm peace that the obligation is not there. I am happy for you that you do have some family you are out with. We are the only ones awake In our family...any advise on how to help family see things our way? I hate seeing them wasting their precious time and life...
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  HI corruptgirl thanks for your response- somehow I missed your intro and I just got to read it! Very inspiring. I am aware of the problems with disorder in Spanish congregations. That actually probably explains why they didn't know what the elder book says. Anyway, I hope the outcome that is best for your family is what happens tomorrow. Perhaps someone you care about will read COC from the Facebook post and see the light.😉
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  Here is my 2 cents, we have seen first hand, the elders follow what rules they choose to, and ignore the ones that suit them. It bothers them that you are throwing in their faces that they aren't following the rules. They will probably start trolling these sites to catch you posting on here. I have followed your posts and you have said a lot of personal info that those who know you will be able to identify you. Battle of who is right begins...I think meeting with them will be difficult unless you have great acting skills...they really don't want to gain their brother...they want to prove you are disloyal...this is evident of how quick they pulled the JC out of the holster...